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	<title>Comments on: RailsConf 2008 &#8211; Surprise of the Day: Maglev</title>
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		<title>By: The Mega RailsConf 2008 Round Up</title>
		<link>http://drewblas.com/2008/05/31/railsconf-2008-surprise-of-the-day-maglev/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Mega RailsConf 2008 Round Up]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] revealed details surrounding their cutting-edge Ruby virtual machine, MagLev. Drew Blas posts with his opinions direct from the talk. Avi Bryant has posted some more detailed notes. Giles Bowkett steps it all up a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] revealed details surrounding their cutting-edge Ruby virtual machine, MagLev. Drew Blas posts with his opinions direct from the talk. Avi Bryant has posted some more detailed notes. Giles Bowkett steps it all up a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bullet trains at ronin coder</title>
		<link>http://drewblas.com/2008/05/31/railsconf-2008-surprise-of-the-day-maglev/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bullet trains at ronin coder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] been a lot of breathless blog coverage of MagLev, the new Ruby-on-a-Smalltalk-VM implementation from Gemstone. They did a demo a RailsConf [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Sho Fukamachi Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Maglev and the naiivety of the Rails community</title>
		<link>http://drewblas.com/2008/05/31/railsconf-2008-surprise-of-the-day-maglev/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sho Fukamachi Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Maglev and the naiivety of the Rails community]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#124; MagLev, Ruby VM on Gemstone OODB, Wows RailsConf RailsConf 2008 - Surprise of the Day: Maglev MagLev is Gemstone/S for Ruby, Huge News MagLev rocks and the planning of the next Ruby [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] | MagLev, Ruby VM on Gemstone OODB, Wows RailsConf RailsConf 2008 &#8211; Surprise of the Day: Maglev MagLev is Gemstone/S for Ruby, Huge News MagLev rocks and the planning of the next Ruby [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Nutter</title>
		<link>http://drewblas.com/2008/05/31/railsconf-2008-surprise-of-the-day-maglev/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Nutter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe releasing numbers before enough benchmarks are reached isn&#039;t such a good philosophy, despite your keenness on &quot;release early&quot;.  Right now it&#039;s still a wait and see deal.  It&#039;s good that they open up their work for feedback but I hope their prepared for the skepticism that is sure to (and hopefully will) follow this talk.  Once everything is wired up these benchmarks will look very different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe releasing numbers before enough benchmarks are reached isn&#8217;t such a good philosophy, despite your keenness on &#8220;release early&#8221;.  Right now it&#8217;s still a wait and see deal.  It&#8217;s good that they open up their work for feedback but I hope their prepared for the skepticism that is sure to (and hopefully will) follow this talk.  Once everything is wired up these benchmarks will look very different.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Collins</title>
		<link>http://drewblas.com/2008/05/31/railsconf-2008-surprise-of-the-day-maglev/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know Io is an esoteric language, but it is quite similar to Ruby and Smalltalk but simpler (prototypes instead of classes / simple syntax) and even more dynamic (lazy message evaluation, parse tree is maintained / modifiable).

We&#039;ve been working on something like Gemstone over the last few weeks and we just released a non-shareded version that works nicely!

If anyone is interested and would like to give feedback / contribute, please check it out and let us know what you think:

http://github.com/stevedekorte/io/tree/master/addons/Obsidian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Io is an esoteric language, but it is quite similar to Ruby and Smalltalk but simpler (prototypes instead of classes / simple syntax) and even more dynamic (lazy message evaluation, parse tree is maintained / modifiable).</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been working on something like Gemstone over the last few weeks and we just released a non-shareded version that works nicely!</p>
<p>If anyone is interested and would like to give feedback / contribute, please check it out and let us know what you think:</p>
<p><a href="http://github.com/stevedekorte/io/tree/master/addons/Obsidian" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/stevedekorte/io/tree/master/addons/Obsidian</a></p>
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		<title>By: drewblas</title>
		<link>http://drewblas.com/2008/05/31/railsconf-2008-surprise-of-the-day-maglev/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drewblas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[V. Rammstynokov:
I certainly didn&#039;t get paid.  Last year, Rubinius had a presentation just like Maglev:  Practically no product.  The year before: jRuby.  I&#039;m fairly skeptic about vaporware, and here&#039;s the reasons I think Maglev comes out ahead:

1)  It&#039;s based on the Gemstone Smalltalk VM.  This is a valid, existing product that does the exact same thing.  Avi mentioned that all they&#039;re really doing is parsing Ruby instead of Smalltalk (very similar).
2)  I applaud them for following the &#039;release early&#039; mantra.  Their product isn&#039;t close to done.  They could have kept it under wraps for another year until it was ready.  Instead they said &#039;This is what we&#039;re trying to do and this is where we&#039;re at&#039; and they opened themselves to the community for use, feedback, etc.  Good for them, I say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V. Rammstynokov:<br />
I certainly didn&#8217;t get paid.  Last year, Rubinius had a presentation just like Maglev:  Practically no product.  The year before: jRuby.  I&#8217;m fairly skeptic about vaporware, and here&#8217;s the reasons I think Maglev comes out ahead:</p>
<p>1)  It&#8217;s based on the Gemstone Smalltalk VM.  This is a valid, existing product that does the exact same thing.  Avi mentioned that all they&#8217;re really doing is parsing Ruby instead of Smalltalk (very similar).<br />
2)  I applaud them for following the &#8216;release early&#8217; mantra.  Their product isn&#8217;t close to done.  They could have kept it under wraps for another year until it was ready.  Instead they said &#8216;This is what we&#8217;re trying to do and this is where we&#8217;re at&#8217; and they opened themselves to the community for use, feedback, etc.  Good for them, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: murphee</title>
		<link>http://drewblas.com/2008/05/31/railsconf-2008-surprise-of-the-day-maglev/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[murphee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of weeks ago, InfoQ had an interview with Gemstone&#039;s Bob Walker about Maglev:
http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/04/maglev-gemstone-builds-ruby

Also: you might want to check InfoQ in the next few weeks - we&#039;ll have a video interview with Avi Bryant up (also talking about MagLev and more about Gemstone).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago, InfoQ had an interview with Gemstone&#8217;s Bob Walker about Maglev:<br />
<a href="http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/04/maglev-gemstone-builds-ruby" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/04/maglev-gemstone-builds-ruby</a></p>
<p>Also: you might want to check InfoQ in the next few weeks &#8211; we&#8217;ll have a video interview with Avi Bryant up (also talking about MagLev and more about Gemstone).</p>
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		<title>By: V. Rammstynokov</title>
		<link>http://drewblas.com/2008/05/31/railsconf-2008-surprise-of-the-day-maglev/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[V. Rammstynokov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, did you get paid to write such a glowing review of a non-existent vaporware commercial product? 

Or just gullible?

Who needs to pay for PR these days, seems bloggers like you just give it for free every time.

Wow, sometimes next year (unconfirmed) I might be able to buy a product which speeds up ruby (unconfirmed) for a lot of money (unannounced). Stop the freaking presses. My only question is will it include WinFS and can I play duke nukem 4 on it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, did you get paid to write such a glowing review of a non-existent vaporware commercial product? </p>
<p>Or just gullible?</p>
<p>Who needs to pay for PR these days, seems bloggers like you just give it for free every time.</p>
<p>Wow, sometimes next year (unconfirmed) I might be able to buy a product which speeds up ruby (unconfirmed) for a lot of money (unannounced). Stop the freaking presses. My only question is will it include WinFS and can I play duke nukem 4 on it?</p>
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